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these *****ing things are annoying as *****. I can't kill them at all because i always die to the lat one and he survives with barely any health
Lol same, and I only tried to beat them this morning :p
I can beat these bastards, but by the time I'm through with em, I'm out of estus for the boss. Even worse with a +1 bonfire...irritates my soul ewwwwww

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It can be rough but you can aggro them one at time easily with a bow. If you're good at managing your stamina and predicting their attacks you can cheese them ever further with poison arrows or poison throwing knives.
Thats why they made Dark Souls II easier... you can still kill them 12 times or so and they wont respawn lol xD
their weapons and armour r unobtainable god dammit! :(
don't they wear some kind of degraded bandit set?

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I feel the same way. It really *****ing sucks because their weapon would be perfect for past builds i've made. My current build is a swamp witch that only uses equipment that is very bloodborne-esque and their weapon would be perfect for her.
Anyone who's having trouble with these guys: just creep very slowly into the area where they hang out until you see one aggro, then pull back. Back away from their first attack, roll through their second attack, then circle around them during their third attack and backstab them. I can easily get through all of them without getting hit once using this tactic.
what hurts him the most and what doesnt is all i want to know please.
Weapons hurt him the most because weapons hurt people. :^)