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I've kept a log of the average SL of hosts I've invaded with my SL 6. I've got half of the list done. It is still a work in progress. This may help you decide on what SL to be on as an invader or sunbro. Obviously, there are flaws, since I can only list the SL of the hosts I've defeated, so the average SL will likely be higher than my list.

Here they are, in order of lowest to highest (via average):

Undead Burg: 11:
Average = 11, median = 10, n = 17, range = 6-25
Outlier = 100[/spoiler]
Solaire's Bonfire: 16:
Average = 16, median = 16, n = 20, range = 8-25
Outlier = none [/spoiler]
Parish: 17:
Average = 17, median = 17, n = 19, range = 9-29
Outlier = none[/spoiler]
Lower Undead Burg: 27:
Average = 27, median = 25, n = 18, range = 19-45
Outlier = 104[/spoiler]
Depths: 29:
Average = 29, median = 28, n = 19, range = 8-54
Outlier = none[/spoiler]
Darkroot Garden/Basin: 32:
Average = 32, median = 28, n = 37, range = 6-72
Outliers = 108, 120, 120, 413[/spoiler]
Catacombs: 34:
Average = 34, median = 31, n = 14, range = 10-58
Outliers = 87, 97, 140[/spoiler]
Blighttown: 37:
Average = 37, median = 40, n = 19, range = 20-47
Outliers = 7, 121, 147[/spoiler]
Sen's: 41:
Average = 41, median = 42, n = 40, range = 23-72
Outlier = none[/spoiler]
Anor Londo: 48:
Average = 48, median = 47, n = 78, range = 10-125
Outlier = none[/spoiler]
Duke's: 63:
Average = 63, median = 67, n = 16, range = 20-95
Outliers = 11, 11, 150, 166[/spoiler]
New Londo Ruins: 65:
Average = 65, median = 54, n = 18, range = 22-152
Outliers = 13, 207[/spoiler]
Demon's Ruins: 70:
Average = 70, median = 67, n = 19, range = 25-114
Outliers = 11, 159[/spoiler]
Painted World: 71:
Average = 71, median = 65, n = 43, range = 10-191
Outlier = none[/spoiler]
Tomb of the Giants: 79:
Average = 79, median = 73, n = 37, range = 33-140
Outliers = 14, 18, 208, 709[/spoiler]
Lost Izalith: 86:
Average = 86, median = 89, n = 20, range = 53-126
Outlier = none[/spoiler]


[spoiler=notes]
  • I did 20 host kills per invasion site. But, unfortunately, I forgot to collect some of the souls collected.
  • n=total number minus the outliers. Average and median do not reflect the outliers.
  • outliers were just a guess by me.
  • I have the spreadsheet saved on my computer. It is ugly as hell, but if you want the raw data, let me know.
  • These reflect only the souls of the hosts I killed (plus an occasional phantom that I actually remembered the number). Being a SL 6 means I died a lot more to higher level hosts, so the numbers are probably skewed lower than the actual amount.
  • Average SL killed, across the board = 53
[/spoiler]

I hope this helps you guys out.
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can we see a mode and the runner ups?
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Very helpful reim, thanks! I am particularly interested in the Catacombs; of all the areas in the game I seem to get summoned there the easiest regardless of my level. Some folks seem to head there right after the Asylum, and others don't bother until after Anor Londo/PW or even later. Just a lot of fun.
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Sen's more clustered range is particularly telling. It's definitely the bottleneck that people just want to get out of the way.
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This is very interesting.

So what would you say the optimal level is to get a good majority of people within invasion range, while still being as high of a level as possible?
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Rif - I can upload the entire spreadsheet. It it ugly. I haven't formatted it, but it has all the numbers.

Myz - not sure. There is a large range here. But, I assume that the list is biased higher. While I don't know the SL of the people I lost to, I have to assume they are usually a higher SL than me. If you take the median, that means 50% of the people were higher than it. Maybe use the lowest (either mean or median) and go a few points under that?


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I have an SL20 build, but they're likely to get destroyed by most in their current condition. All I have at my disposal is a 2h GLS and a Ghost Blade for crits. I'll feel like I'm cheaping out if I go chaos on that build.
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Myztyrio wrote:I have an SL20 build, but they're likely to get destroyed by most in their current condition. All I have at my disposal is a 2h GLS and a Ghost Blade for crits. I'll feel like I'm cheaping out if I go chaos on that build.

Depends on where you are invading. At Anor and beyond, it is not cheap at all (look at the average host SL in those areas).


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reim0027 wrote:
Myztyrio wrote:I have an SL20 build, but they're likely to get destroyed by most in their current condition. All I have at my disposal is a 2h GLS and a Ghost Blade for crits. I'll feel like I'm cheaping out if I go chaos on that build.

Depends on where you are invading. At Anor and beyond, it is not cheap at all (look at the average host SL in those areas).


I've gotten b*tched at just for using ghost blade and hardly any armor in the Parish. And it was a 3v1. And I tried to prove to them that they could have easily had the exact same equipment as me at that point in the game, because they claimed I had "end game items."

But if I were to make something, it'd probably be like a chaos rapier or lightning avelyn.
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