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By Anonymous
#15982043
I don't really feel like he's THE Furtive Pgymy, considering the Furtive Pygmy was "easily forgotten," apparently even by Gwyn until he acknowledged the threat of humankind and essentially cursed them to continue feeding the First Flame, when he tasked the Pygmy Lords with "guarding" the Dark Soul (in actuality, he was preventing mankind from realizing their own latent potential). The "Corrupt" Pygmy must have been a Pygmy Lord that rejected Gwyn's decree, and thus was exiled and stripped of his crown.

The Crucifix of the Mad King description states that Shira once slew a "mad king born to pygmy royalty," implying that the Pygmy Lords used to be fairly less decrepit and may have been tasked with the upkeep of their bloodline--in other words, they used to be mortals. However, when their blood "ran dry," the Pygmy Lords became stagnant and helpless, and were prohibited from dying in order to continue serving Gwyn by guarding the Dark Soul. When Gael finally came for their Dark Souls, there was no chance of escape.

Canonically, I don't feel like the Ringed City exists anymore after you awaken Filianore, which would explain why this particular Pygmy happens to disappear, just as he wished would happen--as does Filianore from her tower. It would just be crazy inconvenient if they completely removed an entire map from the game after triggering a story event, so I guess the reason the player can still return is because the Unkindled can still remember the city by use of the bonfire. As for the Pygmy himself, I'm pretty sure he's finally achieved the death that he was forbade for so long.
By Anonymous
#15995935
Also, the city contains a unique covenant with the ability to respawn the boss (at the monument Lapp seeks when following his quest, and apparently now the undead settlement Velka statue as well after a patch iirc) additionally allowing online player-interaction again.
It would have been a shame to disable the illusion, a number of unique and widely dispersed items and secrets lie in wait.
By Anonymous
#16114658
Though this post is old, OP is right. The Pygmy Lords sold out the rest of humanity to have vassal nobility in the Ringed City because they were seduced by Gwyn's power and Filianore. The Ringed City Hollow, however, is proof that some ancient humans did not surrender their identity and recognized that the end of the Age of Fire is inevitable and so would the Ringed City, sustained by deceit, fall to waste. Be strong, be yourself. Dark Souls is best game.
By Anonymous
#16016019
I killed him... I dont regret it
By Anonymous
#16023158
"Corrupt Pygme Lord"
"Maosoleuom lookout"
What the hell of spelling are those?
By Anonymous
#16060033
It was a Maosive screwup...
By Anonymous
#16089486
A big amount of Russians play the game...pirated ofcourse :D
By Anonymous
#16156989
I truly wish there were more to learn about this NPC. It would have been nice if something happened after waking up Filianore, but instead he just disappears. What a sham.
By Anonymous
#16376517
he disappears because gael eats him
By Anonymous
#16235768
Dung heap? I've seen worse.
By Anonymous
#16292577
I think the dung heap he refers to is the "true" Ringed City that we find at the very end past Filianore, when all the kingdoms of the past (minus the mysterious city on the horizon) have crumbled to dust.
By Anonymous
#16272068
He gives 1k souls upon death
By Anonymous
#16292592
One thing I want to point out concerning this guy is his colors. He wears a black robe with golden circles/rings on it. This is in contrast to the one pygmy lord who partially escapes Gael's slaughter, who wears a white robe with the same golden circles. The hair is exactly the same. The dead pygmy lords seem to be wearing black or at least darkened robes, though it could be stained this way from their blackened blood and the dust they're left in.

It could be that the colors they wear signify their allegiance or status - White to support Filianore and the gods (Gwyn means White) and existence in general, black to oppose the king's decree and undo the illusion that keeps existence together. We know that colors have been used on NPCs to signify their allegiances before. The Deacons' robe states that they used to wear Red to symbolize their tending to the Fire, but later changed to Blue once their devotion changed to the Deep. Likewise, in Lothric castle we can still see a large number of Red-clothed Lothric knights farther out, and Blue-wearing knights closer to the Princes - this is one of many signs of the civil war in Lothric, between those who support linking the fire, and those who support the Princes in letting the world rot.

We also find hollow pygmy enemies all throughout the Ringed City, who wear bright red and throw bits of lightning, a clear sign of blessing from the gods. They also drop both hollow and blessed gems. They resemble more intact versions of the crawling pygmy lords, but I'm guessing their garb lacks the bright white cloth or golden rings either due to their lower rank, or because the cloth was dyed completely red in service to the gods. The blue-robed hollow clerics in the Ringed City fight along them in the same streets, but they also occupy the Abyssal Swamp, quite comfortably it would seem. In the Ringed City, we see the otherwise impossible convergence and alliance of both light and dark, which is why we see Red and Blue fighting together, not against each other. See also the light-and-dark spell circles the clerics cast, or the fact that the hollow assassin enemies can drop both Hollow and Blessed gems.

Now, it is entirely possible, with the slain pygmy lords wearing black or stained robes, that the exile pygmy here isn't clad in robes that signify his stance - this would be an extraneous detail anyway since he straight up tells you he wants you to wake Filianore - and rather, the robes became stained black as he was forced to crawl away from the center of the city, likely exiled for wishing to pull the lid off the "privy." It's also possible that the White of their robes signifies the status of their Dark Soul within. The living lord clearly has some soul left in him as he crawls toward Filianore, so his robes remain white. The exiled lord may have been stripped of his Dark Soul somehow by the others upon being banished, and the others' robes turned black as their Dark Souls were consumed by Gael.

One thing we can say with pretty sure certainty is that he's former pygmy royalty, based on his appearance and garb. For those wondering whether or not that makes him the furtive pygmy, no. Rather, like all humanity, or rather all life, he holds a piece of his original lord's soul - the Furtive Pygmy, AKA Manus' Dark Soul - which was split and diffused throughout the ages. Another possibility, since it seems likely the Ringed City was created back when Gwyn was still alive, is that the Furtive Pygmy's soul split into multiple parts - Manus (the primordial human who represented the wild will of humanity, peaceful until disturbed and then irreversably enraged), and the Pygmy Lords (the rulers who accepted the tainted gift of Gwyn and stayed loyal until the end). While Manus was awoken, enraged, and later defeated in Oolacile, we know from DS2 that his soul split then into Nashandra and her sisters, but the fraction of the Dark Soul that stayed to rule over the Ringed City did so loyally, forever and outside of time. Just some theories.
By Anonymous
#16292643
I might be reaching with the Red / Blue-clad hollows in Ringed City, but I think I'm spot on with the Deacons and Lothric (I'm not the only one to think there was a civil war in Lothric, not only is there plenty of evidence to find for yourself but you can find a few lore videos about it, I liked Smoughtown's most).

One thing I'm having trouble recalling, and might be wrong on, is if you can find any places where the blue clerics and red assassins fight together - they're often close by to each other, but as far as I can remember they appear in completely separate encounters, never fighting directly alongside each other - someone please correct me if you know I'm wrong.

And what about the cursed assassins who clearly bear the same cursed crystals we can find in the Abyssal Swamp? Are the Blues doing this to them?

Also of note, they both separately fight alongside Ringed Knights, though this doesn't necessarily make the Blues and Reds allies, as the Knights could be a neutral party between the two. For their part, my current theory is that the knights are forced into fighting for Filianore by the Seal of Fire placed on them by the gods, which might meaning they don't have investment in any internal conflicts, so long as Filianore stays asleep. This isn't based on any clear evidence though, just speculation based on their positioning, affiliation with the Church, and their weapon descriptions.

There is a lot to think on here, I'll be exploring again in game later. Anyone else feel free to chime in!
By Anonymous
#16332173
this is such a cool theory incredible job
By Anonymous
#16372359
@Dec 20 isn’t there a blue cleric with a cursed red Pygmy and lighting red Pygmys that fight together or in very close proximity like halfway down the stairs on the way to the swamp to the left in a corner with the bloated knights
By Anonymous
#16294820
Ringed city hobo giving advice to invading heretic
By Anonymous
#16320058
Is he Gael?
By Anonymous
#16355883
Are you stupid?
By Anonymous
#16365741
Sorry lil man but if this series taught me anything it's not to trust raggedy old guys who talk like their diet is made up of sand and dried wood shavings