I should specify that the reason it's OP is not necessarily because of the Madness proc itself, but the fact that Madness goes through iframe AND block and CCs through iframe as well (e.g. you can iframe the damage proc similar to how you can iframe the bleed damage proc but not the CC). The fact this weapon has multi-hit and long range too makes it easy for the weapon to desync iframes and even if you don't get hit, you'll still have madness proc and be CCed even if you perfectly dodge every attack.

Are you serious about it? Does frenzy instakills? or is just like bleed status?

Best build for it?

Lol stop downvoting this guy. This spear is madness indeed.

Dex/int is still better as a build, more viable combat spells with faster casting and free win button as a weapon art, where the vyke's war spear requires the opponent to be an idiot to get hit by the weapon art. on top of that the high dmg'ing faith incantations have year long windup cast times and the poke incantations are telegraphed to the world. in other words faith spells might (keyword there) hit once but afterwards they're easy to roll, whereas spells are fast casting, always viable to control the other players movement, and high dmging in most situations. This is not including some of the weapon arts which work fast and can catch you out. try using vyke's spear after you hit lvl 90+ then try to say it needs a nerf, the amount of ppl ive seen using dex/int is unreal.

I am serious about it, try dual wielding two of these and you'll never lose. The Madness doesn't insta kill but it does drain FP, CC and do damage so you could very easily cheese someone to death with it especially since it goes through iframe. For a build, I'd prob do a faith/dex build. Prioritize dex over faith probably.

I eat my words. This weapon is fine when you wield one of them, but duel wield, dear god the duel wielding vyke's players probably play with blocks or something cause that is beyond broken the way it works. I hope Fromsoftware patches out dropping stuff to other players soon entirely cause that is just bs. Either that or prevent that weapon from having duel wield interactions.

Whoever updates these pages seriously just copy pastes **** and moves on

It is Faith, got it a few days ago.

Yes it scales with faith, the whole madness of gear are faith oriented.

Yeah, seems to be someone put those numbers in the wrong box, but the scaling is correct, so going Dex/Faith with this weapon works quite well.

All Flame weapons scale with Faith. Just as all pyromancies are now incantations

But you're not a god using braindead weapons lol

As a ring knight spear fan, this thing is next level.

lul