Tf

Incants are objectively cooler and there is no shame in preaching so

cool nobody asked

just run int/fai and get the best of both worlds lmao

who asked

"incantations are better because i don't know anything about spells"

That's so offensive I love it

Rock Sling beat by Ezykes Decay? Lel no. Acienct Dragon Lightning Strike being anything but utter garbage? Lel no. Swift Glintstone > Honed Bolt. Loretta's Sorceries are great for sniping enemies, Ancient Dragon Lighting Strike is utter trash (Slow and no range) in comparison.

Nothing trivializes the final boss like those skills? Comet Azur and Meteorite of Astel deletes them no problem.

Sounds like you're relying on OP Spirit Ashes as a crutch to make use of these spells that have "A lot of utility" but in reality have long casts that are not good against most bosses.

cool but like nobody asked

i agree with you but the only sorcery thats better (not really better just annoying without bloodhounds step) is stars of ruin

Yeah no swift glintstone and Carian slicer has no better alternatives in faith. Swift does dumb damage in pvp and can actaully roll catch if you are good at predicting and is reaction damage if the other player does anything close to you or a 1 to 2 second animation. Carian slicer with everything that buffs magic damage is literally like 2k at least per slice and your hitting like twice every second for like 4 fp per cast.

Lets be honest tho for PVE yeah faith has an edge but only because you can mega buff yourself but I would say for pvp sorceries have better spells. Like going pure faith compared to pure int for pvp pure INT is just better.

I think a lot of this is apples and oranges. Swift glintstone is more comparable to bestial sling or lightning spear, all very good spells, and loretta's is more of a sniper spell like frenzied burst. Rot breath is more comparable to comet azur than rock sling, CA being useful for obliterating a single target in a few seconds, and rot breath being useful for killing everything in a wide area either immediately or in 30 seconds, or after a second cast for bosses. Having used both but personally preferring faith by quite a bit, I'd say pure faith is a better setup than pure INT PvE wise because of its versatility. The overwhelming majority of an INT caster's arsenal is magic/physical damage projectiles and conjured magic damage swords, with little in the way of buffs/utility and no healing options. Faith has abundant access to every damage type but magic (just the glintstone/frost breaths), useful buffs for basically every situation, and healing spells that vastly improve your health/flask returns. ADLS is one of the best spells in the game, and while it falls a bit short of comet azur for melting bosses, unlike CA it's not useless outside of that, being practically a nuclear bomb against groups of enemies. As for carian slicer, it definitely is better than its faith counterpart, catch flame, in every regard but poise damage and buffability. But having used both, they both vaporize PVE so quickly it's hard to notice a difference.

TLDR;
Faith loses to INT in terms of raw damage per cast, but is leaps and bounds more versatile and has a much higher effectiveness ceiling for PVE than INT. Ironically, it just takes a few more brain cells to get it there.

Try posting this three to five more times and you might convince others.
Oh wait, you did, and yet you didn't convince others...

Comet azure with constant cast build

stop youre giving me tranquil walk of peace ptsd

lol

that would be fun, this **** game is not about having fun.