Seriously. Magic is fun but it is never viable long term.
Maybe in full game there will be a regen ring like in demon souls

they could go with DS3 route and go with "Simple" upgrade to add FP regen, I have to look in to this more

There was no regen ring... FFS...

I���m not sure if the dude who posted on the 28th was talking about Elden Ring or Demon���s Souls but if it���s the latter than uh yes there was the Royalty Class starts with it.

having to sacrifice healing flasks to refill fp is why spell builds are balanced. If people could infinitely cast spells as long as they survived long enough, magic would be the way to go every time you played. A magic/melee hybrid build can work quite nicely as you can still have powerful spells, but also have a melee weapon to fall back on when you run out of fp.

In pvp yes, it's balanced. But in pve, especially when you're exploring vast dungeons/levels, it's quite annoying to run out of fp every other times with the little vigor you have from levelling up mind.

"non-regenerating fp is the cost of having ranged attacks" Except like half of the spells in the game are melee-ranged attacks. Sure there's frenzied burst and loretta's mastery but there's also catch flame and carian slicer, or dragonclaw and gavel of haima. The devs have already decreased the fp cost of many melee-ranged spells, so they recognize the pure caster build.

It depends on the Ash of War, aka the skill, used. Some will do heavy attack damage, if they still perform a normal swing, like the Lion's Claw skill, which is Artorios' attack from DS1. Others will do nothing, like Flame of the Redmane's (VERY good skill), which produces a horizontal line of fire but does literally nothing without FP. Some always do the same damage regardless, but have a different effect tied to the FP cost of the skill, like a charge attack that guarantees a knockdown if you have FP.

pebble is indeed one of the strongest spells cause it take little mana and alot of dmg

Spells can be quite good if you focus on them exclusively, but the tradeoff for high damage ranged combat is sacrificing some healing opportunities to refill fp. I think that this system is balanced and can reward a magic/melee hybrid build quite nicely.

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Found the naked great sword user.

I only played Dark Souls and Bloodborne and magic-esque builds never made sense to me because of this. For one, if you don't have a melee weapon, then you're literally counting how many times you attack. Unless there is some kind of default way to gain FP without sacrificing an item, it'll never seem reliable to me.

Comet Azul is calling!

I think that bird of death boss was somewhere around Weeping Peninsula

Don���t forget Ancestral Spirit Horn!

No, but couldn't you just increase your fp bar for the same practical effect?

Haven't played the game, but played other FS games, but to the reply, the need of an item (talisman in this case) is that it doesn't cost runes and raise the cost of anything else. I'd prefer an item to cut it down over leveling it up as well.

There is a Talisman that decreases the FP cost of spells, the trade off is you lose quite a bit of HP. Alternatively there is a (different) Talisman that decreases the FP cost of weapon abilities with no downside.
You can also use a Talisman that gives you a small amount of FP back on kill, and pair it with an axe that has a similar effect, though this isn't particularly useful in boss fights.

Primal Glintstone Blade || Reduced FP cost of spells/incantations and Reduced total HP
Carian Filigreed Crest || Reduced FP cost of skills
Ancestral Spirit's Horn || FP gained on kill
Sacrificial Axe || FP gained on kill (needs to be equipped in main hand or off hand, though you do not need the stats to actually wield the item to gain the effect)

primal glinstone blade decreases spell fpncost and carian filigreed crest decreases skill fp cost

tl;dr no regen, instead restore on kill

That's not regen. Not even close. And the amount restored is laughable. Absolutely no reason to use that talisman.

It will be nerfed I think

i would assume you talking about dragon incantations they have rather interesting thing about them with them you have 2 different spell cost first to spawn a spell (usually 28+ fp cost) and second spell holding cost (usually 4+ fp) if you cast a spell first time and continue to hold it for second barrage then yes fact that you have fp remaining for that is completly normal

if you dont have enough fp to use a spell then the game checks to see if you have half the fp for it. if you do you can cast it. in this case, suing it once puts you at 28 fp. since 28 is more than half the cost of the spell (40), you can use it one more time.

Look dude, mage build is the easy mode of this game, stop crying

not true man my wizard knight killed all the endgame bosses in just 3-5 hits (except final final boss). He only had 20 FP, lol.

Both of you are poopheads, this game is easy mode in general, you can make any build you like as long as you grind enough.

(speaking in terms of souls games of course)

I usually implement magic in my builds to help complement my playstyle, but in Elden Ring it wasn't as viable - it was FAR more viable to focus on bleed or other procs.