- Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:36 pm #16103423
The Sculptor says, when you treat him to Monkey Sake, that he trained with another shinobi in the Sunken Valley. The sculptor’s partner played an eerie tune through their hole-bearing finger, he says. This other shinobi was the “Kingfisher”, as the prosthetic whistle tool’s description states. Also, the sculptor trained like a monkey, leaping amidst the rocks, as he puts it. He must be the “Bounding Monkey of the Sunken Valley”, as per the shinobi axe’s description (though that’s pretty obvious).
- Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:40 pm #16105632
The finger says "The slender finger of a young woman" and yet when the sculptor is speaking of the other shinobi while drinking he refers to them as a "him". Maybe it was the sake getting to him
- Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:16 am #16105751
Also the sculptor's nickname is "Orangutan" as affirmed during the secret dialogue tree for the Alternate Good Ending wherein Sekiro dies instead of the Divine Heir. This lends further credence to him being the Bounding Monkey.
- Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:07 pm #16110724
Is the finger Kingfisher's own finger? I assumed that it was a severed finger owned by kingfisher. The sentence "as evidenced by the open hole" implies that a hole is bored into the finger, which obviously wouldn't be done to a finger that was still attached to someone.
- Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:16 pm #16115492
"The shinobi who used it before." Maybe this shinobi, who the sculptor refers to as HE, is not the same person who the finger was originally attached to who is a SHE. If this is so, then "Kingfisher" may refer to the woman who the finger belonged to, the ring itself, or the original owner of the ring. The sculptor also mentioned that he and his partner were both "rogue shinobis". Besides the sculptor and sekiro, only Owl was the other person mentioned as rogue shinobi in the game (mentioned by Juzou and Masanari if you eavesdrop on them during Hirata Estate revisited). Could it be, that Owl and Orangutan were once buddies?
- Tue May 07, 2019 6:36 am #16119637
I’m not sure about it being Owl (not denying it either), but if you pay close attention, the finger itself isn’t said to belong to Sculptor’s former partner, just the ring was. In fact, the Slender Finger seems to imply that this tool was known amongst shinobi, as if perhaps any slender finger would be fit to act as a whistle. I’m starting to wonder if this finger belonged to one of the Ōkami women, whereas the ring was special to Sculptor’s male partner. After all, the Ōkami DO have ridiculously slender fingers… Also note that the Guardian Ape’s watering hole rests at the basin of the Fountainhead Palace, so perhaps a dead Ōkami washed down the waterfall and was consumed by the Ape.
- Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:35 pm #16177759
Owl and Isshin were contemporaries if not friends, as well as sake drinking partners once upon a time. If the Sculptor is supposed to be a pupil that studied under Isshin originally and/or had some relationship more than just acquaintances, then it follows that the Owl and the Sculptor probably knew each other as well. As to if they were friends, idk.
- Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:34 am #16472244
As much as i know that Isshin led a rebellion alongside owl sculptor lady butterfly gyoubu and more where he defeated general tamura and after the battle owl found wolf there isshin cut of sculptors left hand so he does not become shura
- Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:26 pm #16178303
If this is Kingfisher I believe this presumed death was recent. Evidence below: The finger looks mostly intact. The whole digestion process takes about 5 hours. This means it must've been ingested recently Upon arrival the ape looks to be eating something The wound on it's face looks relatively fresh. There is no scar tissue or even a scab present
- Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:59 pm #16385018
Kingfisher being (allegedly) the young female shinobi partner of the sculptor kinda reminds me of lady maria being the young hunter student of gehrman from bloodborne. She also died before him (presumably)