- Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:43 am
#16008884
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- Wed May 02, 2018 4:37 am
#16031594
Depends on your build. The shield is probably the best lightweight anti magic shield in the game so if your not an int build pick it for utility. Also in unpatched versions the shield projectile is bugged and can do pretty ridiculous damage. The spear is a pure magic weapon and one of the longest Spears in the game so it is a contender for best spear for int build in the game. As an int build I Think that the moonlight greatsword has better projectiles and you can probably use the magic shield spells combined with a good shield to get the same magic protection so in that case the spear is probably better.
- Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:24 pm
#16072726
Yes the shield gets my vote it's great even for first and second play throws
- Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:52 pm
#16309646
spear is better cuz shield from moonlight butterfly not block 100% physical damage and got low stability i know it got good magic block but crest shield is way much better higher stability and magic block is lower so spear is better
- Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:36 am
#16085086
If you're doing an INT-Build, this spear is a good (poor man's?) substitute until you get the Moonlight Great Sword. Or if you failed to cut off Seath's tail on your first playthrough. For one thing, you can get the Soul of the Butterfly much sooner and spears are purchaseable from the Undead Merchant (male). You still have to make it to Anor Londo, though and the Sword is available shortly after defeating Smough and Ornstein. The Horn being a spear has the advantage of being safer to use, as you can raise your shield and attack at the same time. This can be useful if your character is a bit more squishy. The Horn also has lower requirements with 12 STR and 14 INT. The Sword requires 16 STR, 10 DEX and 28 INT. Obviously, if you're not doing an INT-build, go for the shield.
- Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:21 pm
#16113918
Even better than wasting souls upgrading a spear, just deconstruct the lightning spear you get from the mimic in Sen's Fortress for a free +10 spear
- Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:37 am
#16115870
my magic +5 bandits knife (that i have from about 2 hrs playtime) is still better than the non-upgraded spear. the bandits knife causes bleed damage and has a high crit rate. in my opinion a long ranged melee weapon defeats the pupose of an int build, because you want to keep your enemies at a distance anyways (usually done by magic). next time i'd prefer to make the shield with the butterfly soul.
- Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:17 am
#16144475
Deconstruct the lightning spear you get from Sens fortrace for a +10 spear.
- Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:15 pm
#16159007
I mean, it's not a matter of WHICH one to make, in my opinion both the butterfly's soul items are terrible... But you need both for the trophy. I would honestly rather just have the 8000 souls then either of these trash
- Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:12 pm
#16183155
It looks like you can feed the Soul to Frampt for the 8k souls, rather than consuming it directly.
- Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:21 pm
#16202602
I'm using it on a SL70 mage build and the spear is pretty good tbh. I'm at 36 intelligence and it takes a good ammount of health per hit.
- Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:51 pm
#16289734
Damn that's crazy... I don't remember asking. Seriously though just shut up and use the souls then, nobody cares.
- Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:53 pm
#16289735
Plus the shield is really good on the four kings which is a boss that's easier to tank than roll
- Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:20 am
#16198044
The shield is pretty good for being the only sheild that does magic damage but it can’t parry.
- Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:00 am
#16199381
this spear is not bad, it have one of the largest ranges in spears and his magic damage is decent, but like the moonlight greatsword it only have magic damage, so you are completely neked agains enemies with magic barrier
- Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:44 pm
#16299473
I agree, anonymous replier, this gave me a stroke as well. Also I have no idea what "neked" means