- Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:28 am #15841593
- Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:28 am #15841594
if you kill brador before simons quest is initiated, does he still die? seems kinda weird if he does
- Sun Sep 11, 2016 3:25 pm #15841595
"Pitiful, really"Seems Simon will die either way. Its disappointing considering in Dark Souls 1 they factored in the loophole that saves Solaire and even went as far as to give his quest line an alternate ending if you stumble upon the loophole
- Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:37 am #15885619
You can't kill Brador before he mortally wounds Simon. The only way to get the key to Brador's cell to kill him is by getting it from the mortally wounded Simon. So no matter what, Simon will die.
- Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:25 am #16073950
As for Solaire I have another explanation. They just didn't finish the alternative questline for him and came up instead with this loophole to at least give us something to work with. DS1 is, as great as it might be, still a very unpolished game. Not nearly as great as DS3 when it comes to this matter.
- Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:10 pm #16126141
To the ones saying how, go grab the key, kill Brador, then tell Simon you have an interest.
- Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:01 pm #15841812
If you kill Simon at the lighthouse instead of talking to him, he will drop his bowblade and the key, so if you wanna be cruel you can attack him when hes wounded and he will die easily and you'll still get the key.How do I know this? Well, You see those cannonballs outside the lighthouse hut? I decided to hit them to see if that did anything...my weapon clipped through the wall and hit 'something' - then it said I got Simons Bowblade and that key...I was like "Huh? Oh Snap!" I ran into the hut and see his dead body. WHOOPS
- Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:13 pm #15841813
My Simon got killed through the wall in a similar way. I ran straight up the hill and the fish giant outside went ape***** against the wall trying to get me. It killed Simon before I could talk to him.
- Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:14 am #15887793
Omg I just missattacked to him. After that I killed him because he's automatically get hostile of me. Should I regret?
- Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:49 pm #15891311
No. You still get everything he would have given you had you completed his quest. You just have to find the key where he would be at the end of his quest.
- Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:48 pm #15891310
So there are no repercussions to attacking him as soon as you meet him? You still get the Bowblade and later the key.
- Sun Jan 09, 2022 10:23 am #16400511
To my understanding that's how all of the side quests work in bloodborne. If you actually finish the quest, those items are sometimes discounted. If you kill them, the only thing you're really missing out on is emotes if you're into that
- Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:40 pm #15929063
I ran past the shark giant and think that I accidentally killed him upon entering the hut. That or the shark giant hit him through the wall. RIP harrowed hunter... lol
- Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:41 pm #15962670
Easily dispatched with 10 shots from lvl 9 Evelyn at bloodtinge ~ 40
- Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:56 am #16020116
Other person is wrong, his set is a set drop at a location(see the harrowed set's page here on the site)
- Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:46 pm #16088894
Second person is correct, first is wrong. Set is found on a corpse in a house in the Fishing Hamlet.
- Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:13 pm #15965292
I didn't talk to him because I missed the door, so I finished the dlc killing the final boss ...now I went back and opened the door but I didn't find him there...someone can tell me if I lost him forever or he is somewhere else?
- Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:28 pm #15967422
Yeah you missed his questline, and probably had fun with Brador lol. Will have to do it again in NG+.
- Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:43 am #16347223
That's a pretty neat parallel, except for the part where he dies.