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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 12:39 am
Okay, that's different from what I thought it was. I'm gonna try it.
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 28, 2011 12:42 am
Alright so we have the Pendant and the Centipede Demon thing. I might try smacking some walls with a fully upgraded chaos weapon once a find a red titanite slab.

This game is so frustrating when it comes to secrets. How did people even find the great hollow?!
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 12:47 am
About the Duke's Archives, I've read theories online that say the way to get to the supposed secret boss is via an elevator, aka the platform with all of the gears in the middle of the prison room.

I have no idea how one is supposed to "activate it", and glyphstone himself seemed to have done everything possible to the gears resulting in nothing..
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 12:50 am
wow one of the best threads ive read but hard to keep up on lol. i agree with fireman i want to find some epic dank **** in this game.

has anyone ever tried to have the great sword and sheild of artorias with the cov of artorias for the 4 kings fight..cause didnt he fight them? dont know were im going with that but im curious what you brains can do with it...ima keep cheacking on this tread for sure..hope you guys find some ****!!
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 12:53 am
Ima go exploring in the Duke's hopefully those damn archers dont get me..
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 12:56 am
my first playthrough, by accident if you will I saved Solaire and had in in the Gwynn fight..

I say by accident because I wanted him to hollow to get all his gear.. was on an npc killing get everything cause well ya..

I did not have the pendant however..

snd.. you don't have to kill petrus for reah to go hollow..

do all the steps in the game.. bell towers, sen's, anor londo.. either kill O + S and get the lord vessel.. or don't..

then go and save reah... go to the Parish.. but everything she has..

then go back to kill O+S, get the lord vessel.. go back to the parish.. Reah will be gone.. no corpse.. that means she be hollow in a cell at the dukes..

Side notes.. on my current play.. I still have Big Hat in the cage in Sen's Fortress..

I have the lord vessel.. and just pissing around until someone can give me their Abyss covenant of artorias ring so I can do 4 kings whilst leaving Sif alive... SL 120, xbox 360.. sign name glyphblade...

I am currently forest hunter, trying to rank up to lvl 3... and I already killed Shiva and Ninja, cause the cat don't like em... thats whay she said anyways.. got kicked out and rejoined...

lastly I still have the black eye orb.. I plan on keeping it until I get to Gwyn.. to see if anything different happens...

This is the trying to break the game pattern and see if anything different will happen..

as to the no covenant thing.. I believe it is not important.. the covenants are part of the game.. more importantly however..

not being any of the 3 good covenant.. makes it easier for darkwraiths to invade..

and likely not beng in any covenant makes being invaded even easier..

damn darkwraiths.. starting rumours to find easy humanity..
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 1:01 am
Sidenote to my exploring: I got a goddamned trident!! Now I can trade for VIRTUALLY ANYTHING, HAHAHA.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 1:03 am
Nice! I got one as well. Should probably trade it for some Sunlight medals.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 1:04 am
i got an idea, how about having both artorias sword and sheild and fighting four kings before killing siff then going to the grave and seeing what happens
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 1:05 am
Sif will be all like "Intruder! Stop right there criminal scu- ...daddy..?"
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 1:12 am
haha that would be awesome, i just feel like he should have an actuall cov or siff gives you armor or somin crazy

maybe i just have to high of hopes?
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 1:18 am
Hotdamn, a SECOND trident.

I feel like by me getting all of these, I decrease everyone else's chances of getting them, lol.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 1:19 am
The fuuuu-!!!!! Are you serious!?!?
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 1:22 am
Yes, I am completely serious. Im not even wearing the gold serpent ring or symbol of avarice, and I only have 2 humanity.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 1:22 am
lol pvp and dual weild them
ppl will be scared ****!
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 1:28 am
I can give one away if someone needs one. I'll keep the other for when I decide to getting around to completing the Knight's Honor trophy, lol.
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Firemann28 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Firemann28 Nov 28, 2011 1:39 am
does anyone know a a dark sun gwyndolin statue in the game? just thinking that if the dark seance ring made a gwyn statue disapear the white seance ring might make a statue of her disapear..or a simliar statue?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 1:41 am
I don't think there is one. I'll look around though.
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Monopolus re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Monopolus Nov 28, 2011 1:44 am
I'm sorry that I don't have anything to contribute here, but holy hell is this thread making me interested. I hate how little lore they tell you in this game, and finding all the little secrets is going to be great.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 1:49 am
Being interested is the first step. Try out some of the rumours here and see if you can bust them or confirm them.
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#12
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 1:52 am
Well I dont see anything in the prison room.. I've even tried dancing on top of the gears fully geared as a Channeler, lol.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 1:57 am
Now that's funny XD. Did you try the miracles?
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 2:00 am
I want to bring this up again.

A few weeks ago, just out of curiosity, I watched a video on youtube of someone fighting Guyra in King's Field.

When I saw what he looked like, I thought to myself: "...wait a minute.. he looks like that giant Drake head in the Anor Londo trophy room.."

Here's the said video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsweMTIJfN4
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 2:01 am
And no, I dont have a high enough faith on this character to use them. My faith is only 30, whereas I need it to be 45 to use them both.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 2:02 am
35 for bountiful. but yes he does look like the drakes.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 2:03 am
They killed him. And stuffed his body! And mounted his head! The bastards!
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 2:07 am
And all of his babies too!

Also, the Moonlight Greatsword is a sword that has appeared in supposedly almost all of From Software's games in some form or another.

At the end of the video I just posted (technically at the beginning of part 38 of the series) he goes behind where Guyra was standing, and grabs the Moonlight Sword, beating the game.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 2:14 am
Oh, yeah. My friend said a similar sword was in Demon's Souls. He also said it was better than its Dark Souls counterpart.
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 2:21 am
Its just the fact that it drops off of Seath, who is also from King's Field, is interesting. It would make sense to include Guyra somewhere in this game.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 2:24 am
Some people seem to believe that the Everlasting Dragon is Gurya. Actually, I remember hearing someone say that he had song on the soundtrack. It was cakked Gurya-Everlasting Dragon and ut was the same song as the one at Ash Lake.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 2:25 am
I have a question about the covenants. If I switch to another will I lose my rank in it?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 2:26 am
In the previous one i mean.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 2:33 am
so ive got both of artorias weps now im waiting for next play though to try my theory
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 2:35 am
and yeah you will lose ur rank
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 2:37 am
Nah, it's just called "Everlasting Dragon".

And I believe if you leave your covenant and then come back, you'll be just a rank lower.

To be more specific, I think its.. say your a sunbro, and you turned in 30 sun medallions. If you leave and come back, your status in the covenant would only be half of that. It'd be as if you only turned in 15. Or if you turned in 40, then it'd be like you only turned in 20, and so on.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 2:41 am
i just realized how little informed i am...i never played kings field or demon souls....
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 2:43 am
lol you're not alone
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 2:45 am
I've played through Demon's Souls a few times, but I too have never played King's Field.

That isnt too surprising though. They're really rare outside of Japan, and even there they're rare. It's an old and difficult RPG for the PlayStation 1 that has 10-15 FPS, lol.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 2:48 am
dam...SO THATS WHY THE JAPANESE KNOW SO MUCH MORE!!

i should just move to japan to be a real gamer lol
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Noctes Nov 28, 2011 2:55 am
Unrelated: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh53Jn7L4iE&feature=related

LOL at the comments.
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#13
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 3:00 am
So, i can confirm that Bountiful Sunlight does nothing. Maybe I need to use the other as well.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 3:01 am
haha i allways put amazing chest when i walk in lol
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 3:13 am
..Does anyone in the game ever at some point mention the Duke's Archives and Reah in the same breath? Is it ever explained why she goes there?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 3:16 am
actually its not
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 3:17 am
she is on somesort of mission...maybe its to free the pisacas
try droping the pendent by them and seeing if they pick it up or somin?
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 3:22 am
I actually dont have the Pendant.. Reah didnt drop it.

And the mission she was on that was talked about was to obtain the Rite of Kindling from Pinwheel.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 3:27 am
oh for sure

and ive tried lots of crazy **** with them pisicas ive put on the maiden set and ring and used both miracles by them...still nottin
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reaperfan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
reaperfan Nov 28, 2011 3:36 am
The deal with the Picasas is that Seath was kidnapping maidens and experimenting on them. The two Picasas that aren't hostile and drop the miracles are speculated to have been just recently experimented on as they're crying in anguish and/or pain as to what's happened to them. If Reah is allowed to live long enough with Petrus not killing her, then it's probably Seath finding out about her and taking her to the Archives, where she then hollows before anything is done to her. Now how she gets there if you've already killed Seath is a hole to that theory, but given that her hollowed form is in a locked cell (one that needs a special prison key even), I doubt she went there of her own accord.
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 3:40 am
Hmm.. that would make sense..

But I wonder how Seath got a hold of Reah all the way from Anor Londo to the Undead Parish?
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 3:44 am
....he can fly
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 3:50 am
the lore or info on the channellers armors says they were also called snatchers..

as in they go out and kidnap helpless maidens who pray to a giant statues unawares of who might be behind them...

Stands to reason in game terms the channeller that was in the Parish which we all killed when we went to kill the gargoyles / first bell..

well he came back and took Reah to the dukes.. Snatched her right out parish..

and it's all your fault for placing the lordvessel and opening up the golden sealed doors.. cause while you were in some archaic grand basement looking at 11 lanterns and a second empty lordvessel in an unreachable area..

the channellers were dragging poor reah to Seaths hidden lab..

and Petrus didn't do nothin to help either.. he just ran away.. oh the grief..

I have played all the King's field games except the japanese ones that were not released in america... and all the original armored core games.. basically if From put it out back in 1994 to almost the present.. I played it..

whats funny is.. I did not play demon souls... no ps3..

thread related so non of the princess guild miracles had any effect on the maidens...

did you already kill seath.. ?
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 3:56 am
seath was alive when i did them
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reaperfan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
reaperfan Nov 28, 2011 3:59 am
I'd guess that Seath has connections and an information network outside the Archives. My guess is that Seath either created or just currently controls the Man-serpents, seeing as how they are the acting guards for the prison cells. Somehow word of Reah's presence, all by herself and removed from the group at Firelink, reached the Man-serpents at Sen's Fortress and Seath decided it was a good time as any to get another experiment subject. Now to fill the holes of:
1: How exactly is Seath related to the Man-serpents?
2: How does Reah show up in the Archives if you've already killed Seath?
3: As far as we know the only characters to ever know of Reah's escape are you, Petrus, the Crestfallen Warrior, and Reah herself, so how would someone in Seath's circle find out? (I suppose Patches may know of her escape, but I can't remember any dialogue of his saying he had knowledge of it, but knowing Patches, it seems characteristic of him to do something like this if he actually found out)
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reaperfan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
reaperfan Nov 28, 2011 4:02 am
@Glyphstone: I was writing mine as you were posting so I didn't read yours til afterwards, but that makes alot of sense.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 4:03 am
read up reaperfan.. it was all you're fault..

darkmerk .. go kill Seath.. and try the crying maidens again..the miracles I presume... being in the princess guild..
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 4:09 am
i killed seath last night and im in sunbros now Image
*** it ill rejoin i guess
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 4:14 am
no worries.. if you've ranked up in sunbros... you'll lose your rank.. so no huge need to...

the chaos bugs in lost izalith shortcut drop sunlight medals too btw

This is of course just for putting all the questions to rest..

this mystery has drivin me almost insane..
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 4:16 am
Maybe they took them from Solaire??
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 4:24 am
ive allready got the great lightning spear so im fine with it..

results equal natta
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 4:25 am
the miracles after seeth i mean
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JohnnyHarpoon Nov 28, 2011 6:15 am
In terms of Rhea and Seath...Rhea also could have made it to Anor Londo herself, seeking the Dieties that remain there. Then, she was kidnapped by a Channeler and taken to the Archives. Or, she simply thought a God might be there and went herself.

Hell, she coulda gone Hollow in the Parish and made it all the way to Anor Londo...
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 6:31 am
lol just bumbling all through Sen's Fortress, making her way to the gargoyles, convincing them through grunts to lift her up and into Anor Londo, making her way past the guards and up into the archives, past all the crystal hollows and into the prison...
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The_Bearded_Man re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
The_Bearded_Man Nov 28, 2011 6:55 am
What about turning off the music that drives the pisacas out of the cell area before killing the two crying pisacas that drop miracles? Maybe something will happen then? Perhaps a talk option?
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TibetSandFox re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
TibetSandFox Nov 28, 2011 7:16 am
Where is the dark soul found by the furtive pygmy. It must be somewhere.
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reaperfan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
reaperfan Nov 28, 2011 7:35 am
@The_Bearded_Man: This is what I usually do actually, because sometimes when you fight them down there you attract the attention of the man-serpents above them before you're really ready. Unfortunately it does nothing special with them :\
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Firemann28 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Firemann28 Nov 28, 2011 10:04 am
can anyone tell me where the key is that opens the cell where all the pisacas are standing? i think there is a fire keepers soul in there but i just cant remember where the key is..
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Siahailatua re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siahailatua Nov 28, 2011 10:35 am
Yo guys,

I'm made Seek Guidance part of my standart Miracles and starter to use it anywhere interesting. Actually runnig everywhere with THE miracle active and reading every message. Perhaps there will be a From message somewhere that will help. I'll keep you guys pistes of anything ANYTHING put of the ordinary happens.

Or has it already been tried? Then please tell me
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Siahailatua re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siahailatua Nov 28, 2011 10:37 am
Pistes = posted... Dang autocorrect
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 12:21 pm
What!? The bugs drop Sunlight Medals!? I'm off to farm for hours now. Imma rank up as far as I can in the Sunbros.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 12:24 pm
@Firemann28: I'm doing that as well. I started yesterday and got nothing from the prisons in Duke's.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 12:37 pm
true were is the darksoul?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 12:45 pm
With the Pygmy. So if the rumours are true it's within you because you are a descendant of the pygmy or the pygmy is somewhere within the game and adding the Dark Soul to the Lordevessel will change the ending.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 12:51 pm
the easily forgotten pygmy has the black souls and humans are its descendent...humanity is a black soul?
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Aicos re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Aicos Nov 28, 2011 12:53 pm
the dark soul is the name of the final achievment, the one you get for all the other ones =D
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 12:56 pm
It'd be crazy if you had to get all achievements/trophies before unlocking an area.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 12:57 pm
quick unrelated

were can i get some fan art of darksouls...(hentai)
DONT JUDGE ME!!
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Aicos re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Aicos Nov 28, 2011 1:01 pm
well, some games unlock stuff by having certain achievment/trophies, maybe this is the case?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 1:04 pm
Maybe. I got all achievements though and nothings happened. There are some areas i want to check still though. I haven't been back to the lower burg yet to try the blocked path.

@Darkmerk: judge judge judge judge honestly, I don't know. I've seen fan art fan art but nothing to your, uh, tastes.
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Aicos re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Aicos Nov 28, 2011 1:10 pm
by the way, can the covenant of artorias be traded? wouldn't thet break the game?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 1:14 pm
Only if you haven't beat the four kings. you beat them and it's no longer needed.
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Aicos Nov 28, 2011 1:18 pm
can someone try this theory? i would myself but i'm currently in final exams (shouldn't be here either)

NG+, don't kill any boss, not even the taurus demon, try to summon someone who is willing to trade the covenant of artorias, go straight for the 4 kings killing ingward, DON'T ring any of the bells of awakening.

has anyone tried this?
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Aicos re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Aicos Nov 28, 2011 1:20 pm
side note: getting the master key so you can skip the taurus demon and go straight to darkroot basin, where i guess are more chances of summoning someone with the covenant of artorias
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halfbeast re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
halfbeast Nov 28, 2011 1:53 pm
I'm loving this thread! Image

I will try things too now, that I have platinum'd the game and can concentrate on the story/secrets in this game. haven't interacted much with the NPCs to be honest, feel like I missed out on a lot of stuff.

reading through all(!) of your posts, here's a crazy idea:

know how you create your character, well of course you do. but ever wondered why those pre-customized face options have fancy names like "Astora Noble"? - and here's where the crazy idea comes from, what if even this has an impact on your playthrough? remember how rhea's dudes (and rhea herself) talk about your looks when you first meet them in firelink? at first, I thought it's because I'm hollow, they said the same thing when I was in human form too. so, what if you go as a pure Astora Noble and talk to them?
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 1:56 pm
I never looked at that. Mainly because I have an old 90s television so its hard to read lol
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 2:02 pm
Dammit, I can't concentrate in school work. I guess I'll be pulling an all-nighter lol. I'm gonna go draw a bit or farm Sunlight Medals. i'll let you guys know if i find anything in a high rank in the Sunbros.
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Klayde re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Klayde Nov 28, 2011 2:30 pm
Has anyone tried to break down a wall with Vamos's Hammer/Pick?

I mean I read a lot about a fully upgraded weapon being able to break a wall but, from what I can remember. He broke a wall with that weapon to open a shortcut.
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glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 2:54 pm
Klayde.. Vamos used the pick axe to smach down the wall in his forge..

I have a fully +15 pick axe, and a fully +5 Vamos Hammer.. been smashing all the walls and no change...

on right now, sl 120, xbox360 Glyphblade... looking for a covenant of artorias ring.. if anyone has one they don't need... meaning already used , did 4 kings.. and wanna drop on me before they new game.. because you don't keep the ring for new game +.

same with the charred orange ring.

I'm at ceasless right now.. dying... a whole lot...

Homing soul mass and ring shield, iron flesh etc... all before 1.05... easy as cake.. but now he's all lucky one shotting me.. damn
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 2:58 pm
Um, i would but can't. SL164 and on NG+++. I can tell you how to beat Ceasless. Stay in the little tunnels preferably where they meet. And face towards the lava area opposite of where ceaseless was laying. When he's about to attack roll backwards then run up and mash at his arm once it lands. Rinse and repeat.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 3:01 pm
if someone helps me with the four kings ill give them my artoris ring im sl125 psn..i really wanna try that theory out

also my theory of killing four kings with both artorias wep and sheild before going to siff while wereing them all and cov ring of course see if he accepts you then?
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 3:01 pm
So, I just got rank 3 in Chaos servant. The whole time I had the old witches ring on. Once I gained rank 3 she sounded well happy. she said the same thing over and over when i ranked up but on the third rank up she sounded better, I'm gonna look for some areas that may have been unlocked now, Dunno if I'll find anything but it's worth a shot.
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glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 3:02 pm
oh I know how to kill him.. like the gaping dragon.. you think you're far enuff away.. but your not.. and he one shots..

basically not giving him enuff distance.. hell I just found out about the bottomless pit kill so.. yeah.. he'll die..

where are you at in the game digital.. and are you on xbox?

I might be able to invade you.. lower levels can invade higher levels..

My ingame xbox sign is glyphblade..

anything you need?
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glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 3:04 pm
heya darkmerk..

I was using the true great sword of Artorias, and popped Artorias shield and went to visit sif..

Of course.. you need the ring and the only way to get it is to kill him...

so hence the can I purty please have someones ole ring.. Image
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 3:04 pm
and holy cow, thank you Glyphstone for letting me know that the bugs drop sunlight medals
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Drethan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Drethan Nov 28, 2011 3:05 pm
I'm convinced that Rhea is getting kidnapped by a Channaller. Anyone tried going to her dressed as a Channaler? Or better yet, letting her go there before killing the channeler who has been looking towards where she is praying? Maybe Petrus himself is a channeler? lol, probably not but anyways.. Besides, she also ends up in the Archives after he is killed if you buy all her miracles. So, stratch that idea.

Those theories aside, what frightens me most is that most of the events in the game requires you to wait a lot of time. Like "curling up like a ball" and lying in the coffin for like a minute to get transported to Nito's area. I didn't wait at all when I was trying to find a secret. And I probably would not wait now too. If that's the case, well,.. I'll be pissed a lot.
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 3:06 pm
Don't forget Wolf ring. THat was also one of his.

Um I am currently at Demon's Ruins but I beat the game all the way to the Kiln. Now I'm just running around.
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Drethan Nov 28, 2011 3:10 pm
Also, I've read that if you drop the abyss ring online, other players will not be able to see it. I'm not sure how correct that info was but I'm pretty sure I read it somewhere. Also, if that was the case, would it reappear in the chest in Firelink? Another thing: what happens when you drop it after you kill Gywn and quit from the game? Does it go to Firelink and does it stay there on NG+?
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glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 3:11 pm
I found out like 5 minutes after 1.05 update.. I was in the area.. going the back route to the shortcut from the other side.. looking for solaire.. I had not opened the shortcut ..

got a sunlight medal.. thought it was cause solaire died..

also.. I was gravelord rank 2.. touched the door and it opened..

I made a post about it too..

Thats why I wanna be forest hunter rank 2.. and see if any covenant rank 2 will open the short cut now...

being rank 3 in chaos.. did you get a message pop up.. good job.. you can give her 99 humanity.. it will max out and you won't be able to offer any more

I did it with kaathe .. Darkwraith rank 3.. then kept dumping humanity into him... he or an ingame message screen popped up top right hand corner.. and said well done, good job.. humanity full..

so if you have 19 more humanity.. dump it too the spider.. and see what she says..

also good job man Image
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 3:13 pm
Unfortunately I don't. I need more but I can always farm the baby skeletons in the Tomb of the Giants. Once i'm done with my research in the Chaos I'm moving onto Warrior of Sunlight.
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glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 3:13 pm
I dropped both the rings.. charred and abyss .. killed gwyn, started new game.. and the firelink chest was empty..

so somewhere.. the in game janitor must have taken the rings back and all that...

likely that crestfallen warrior guy..
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darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 3:21 pm
@drethan
if the other player cant see the ring that would punch a big hole in my theory
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Aicos Nov 28, 2011 1:18 pm
can someone try this theory? i would myself but i'm currently in final exams (shouldn't be here either)

NG+, don't kill any boss, not even the taurus demon, try to summon someone who is willing to trade the covenant of artorias, go straight for the 4 kings killing ingward, DON'T ring any of the bells of awakening.

has anyone tried this?
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Aicos Nov 28, 2011 1:20 pm
side note: getting the master key so you can skip the taurus demon and go straight to darkroot basin, where i guess are more chances of summoning someone with the covenant of artorias
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halfbeast re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
halfbeast Nov 28, 2011 1:53 pm
I'm loving this thread! Image

I will try things too now, that I have platinum'd the game and can concentrate on the story/secrets in this game. haven't interacted much with the NPCs to be honest, feel like I missed out on a lot of stuff.

reading through all(!) of your posts, here's a crazy idea:

know how you create your character, well of course you do. but ever wondered why those pre-customized face options have fancy names like "Astora Noble"? - and here's where the crazy idea comes from, what if even this has an impact on your playthrough? remember how rhea's dudes (and rhea herself) talk about your looks when you first meet them in firelink? at first, I thought it's because I'm hollow, they said the same thing when I was in human form too. so, what if you go as a pure Astora Noble and talk to them?
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 1:56 pm
I never looked at that. Mainly because I have an old 90s television so its hard to read lol
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 2:02 pm
Dammit, I can't concentrate in school work. I guess I'll be pulling an all-nighter lol. I'm gonna go draw a bit or farm Sunlight Medals. i'll let you guys know if i find anything in a high rank in the Sunbros.
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Klayde re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Klayde Nov 28, 2011 2:30 pm
Has anyone tried to break down a wall with Vamos's Hammer/Pick?

I mean I read a lot about a fully upgraded weapon being able to break a wall but, from what I can remember. He broke a wall with that weapon to open a shortcut.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 2:54 pm
Klayde.. Vamos used the pick axe to smach down the wall in his forge..

I have a fully +15 pick axe, and a fully +5 Vamos Hammer.. been smashing all the walls and no change...

on right now, sl 120, xbox360 Glyphblade... looking for a covenant of artorias ring.. if anyone has one they don't need... meaning already used , did 4 kings.. and wanna drop on me before they new game.. because you don't keep the ring for new game +.

same with the charred orange ring.

I'm at ceasless right now.. dying... a whole lot...

Homing soul mass and ring shield, iron flesh etc... all before 1.05... easy as cake.. but now he's all lucky one shotting me.. damn
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 2:58 pm
Um, i would but can't. SL164 and on NG+++. I can tell you how to beat Ceasless. Stay in the little tunnels preferably where they meet. And face towards the lava area opposite of where ceaseless was laying. When he's about to attack roll backwards then run up and mash at his arm once it lands. Rinse and repeat.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 3:01 pm
if someone helps me with the four kings ill give them my artoris ring im sl125 psn..i really wanna try that theory out

also my theory of killing four kings with both artorias wep and sheild before going to siff while wereing them all and cov ring of course see if he accepts you then?
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 3:01 pm
So, I just got rank 3 in Chaos servant. The whole time I had the old witches ring on. Once I gained rank 3 she sounded well happy. she said the same thing over and over when i ranked up but on the third rank up she sounded better, I'm gonna look for some areas that may have been unlocked now, Dunno if I'll find anything but it's worth a shot.
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glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 3:02 pm
oh I know how to kill him.. like the gaping dragon.. you think you're far enuff away.. but your not.. and he one shots..

basically not giving him enuff distance.. hell I just found out about the bottomless pit kill so.. yeah.. he'll die..

where are you at in the game digital.. and are you on xbox?

I might be able to invade you.. lower levels can invade higher levels..

My ingame xbox sign is glyphblade..

anything you need?
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glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 3:04 pm
heya darkmerk..

I was using the true great sword of Artorias, and popped Artorias shield and went to visit sif..

Of course.. you need the ring and the only way to get it is to kill him...

so hence the can I purty please have someones ole ring.. Image
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 3:04 pm
and holy cow, thank you Glyphstone for letting me know that the bugs drop sunlight medals
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Drethan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Drethan Nov 28, 2011 3:05 pm
I'm convinced that Rhea is getting kidnapped by a Channaller. Anyone tried going to her dressed as a Channaler? Or better yet, letting her go there before killing the channeler who has been looking towards where she is praying? Maybe Petrus himself is a channeler? lol, probably not but anyways.. Besides, she also ends up in the Archives after he is killed if you buy all her miracles. So, stratch that idea.

Those theories aside, what frightens me most is that most of the events in the game requires you to wait a lot of time. Like "curling up like a ball" and lying in the coffin for like a minute to get transported to Nito's area. I didn't wait at all when I was trying to find a secret. And I probably would not wait now too. If that's the case, well,.. I'll be pissed a lot.
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 3:06 pm
Don't forget Wolf ring. THat was also one of his.

Um I am currently at Demon's Ruins but I beat the game all the way to the Kiln. Now I'm just running around.
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Drethan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Drethan Nov 28, 2011 3:10 pm
Also, I've read that if you drop the abyss ring online, other players will not be able to see it. I'm not sure how correct that info was but I'm pretty sure I read it somewhere. Also, if that was the case, would it reappear in the chest in Firelink? Another thing: what happens when you drop it after you kill Gywn and quit from the game? Does it go to Firelink and does it stay there on NG+?
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 3:11 pm
I found out like 5 minutes after 1.05 update.. I was in the area.. going the back route to the shortcut from the other side.. looking for solaire.. I had not opened the shortcut ..

got a sunlight medal.. thought it was cause solaire died..

also.. I was gravelord rank 2.. touched the door and it opened..

I made a post about it too..

Thats why I wanna be forest hunter rank 2.. and see if any covenant rank 2 will open the short cut now...

being rank 3 in chaos.. did you get a message pop up.. good job.. you can give her 99 humanity.. it will max out and you won't be able to offer any more

I did it with kaathe .. Darkwraith rank 3.. then kept dumping humanity into him... he or an ingame message screen popped up top right hand corner.. and said well done, good job.. humanity full..

so if you have 19 more humanity.. dump it too the spider.. and see what she says..

also good job man Image
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 3:13 pm
Unfortunately I don't. I need more but I can always farm the baby skeletons in the Tomb of the Giants. Once i'm done with my research in the Chaos I'm moving onto Warrior of Sunlight.
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glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 3:13 pm
I dropped both the rings.. charred and abyss .. killed gwyn, started new game.. and the firelink chest was empty..

so somewhere.. the in game janitor must have taken the rings back and all that...

likely that crestfallen warrior guy..
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darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 3:21 pm
@drethan
if the other player cant see the ring that would punch a big hole in my theory
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Firemann28 Nov 28, 2011 5:14 pm
just another thought, kill all npcs in the game. EVERYONE U CAN THINK OF. blacksmiths, logan, rhea, oscar, catarina + daughter, etc. see what happens. even convenant hosts. i'm going buck wild
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glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 5:29 pm
when reah go to the dukes.. she is hollow.. and petrus won't kill her.. he kills her before she goes hollow.. If you don't buy all of her miracles.. like leave homeward un bought from her.. she will stay there the whole game.. unless petey does her in..

the grief... indeed..

I have an extra pendant if your on 360.. sl 120 range..

I am in the kiln now.. 5:30 pm est.. looking for a summon to see if I can get anyones abyss ring / orange charred ring combo..

glyphblade, xbox 360, lvl 120
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The_Bearded_Man re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
The_Bearded_Man Nov 28, 2011 5:52 pm
I'm on ps3, but thanks for the offer. If anyone else wants to trade the pendant with me I'm soul level 146. Otherwise in my next playthrough I just rescue reah but don't buy all her miracles and petrus should eventually try to kill her, is that correct?
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glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 6:08 pm
yes bearded man.. so long as reah still has miracles to sell.. and Petrus is still alive..
he'll kill reah.. and you a pendant.. and 7 humanity

of course you could join forest hunters.. and chance getting a pendant as a looted item for your kill..
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anson1986 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
anson1986 Nov 28, 2011 6:35 pm
So here's an idea. I agree that the pendant should be linked to Solaire given that it's description has been left the same as the sunlight medallions even with the patches. Obviously if the creators wanted to change the description, they could have. It would seem that the time to give the medallion to Solaire is in Izalith when he is talking about his efforts to find something having been in vain. I have seen that people have talked about trying to use the pendant but has anyone tried dropping it in front of him and reloading the game allowing him to "find" his pendant? If that doesn't work, since you start th game in the covenant that you ended in, has anyone tried playing a runthrough where they started in the SunBros, stayed in the SunBros, ranked all the way up in the SunBros (may be a requirement and the reason they added the ability to farm medallions) and then tried dropping the pendant? I am in college and it's getting to exam time so I don't have time to check (I also killed Solaire on my current playthrough) so it would take some time before I could ever try this. Someone had mentioned using seek guidance...have they tried using this near Solaire in Izalith when he is feeling lost? This is the last time he appears as an NPC that you can interact with. I used him all through my first play through even in the fight with Gwen. This particular encounter stuck out like a sore thumb and I really think that if Solaire is tied to the great pendant mystery that this is the point where the key action needs to take place. Also, thank you Glyphstone, this is the most exciting thread...ever. Even if none of it is true, this has been a fun read.
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anson1986 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
anson1986 Nov 28, 2011 6:42 pm
Gwynn..sorry
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 6:43 pm
i will be testing all the solaire pendant idea's in my current playthrough...

I just need to get summoned into someones world to see if I can pick up their artorias ring / charred ring..

I glitched into the kiln early.. hoping it would be the best bet to test this.. and et summoned cause by that point no one needs either item anymore..

don't wanna leave cause I really don't wanna do it again and risk corupting my save..

sl 120, 360, glyphblade
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freakgib re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
freakgib Nov 28, 2011 6:49 pm
Hi there Guys not sure if the idee i have has been mentiont.
the Pendant has to do something about Memory right.
could it not be that she want's to save her own soul and when she is killed by Petrus u get the Pendant with here memory's and the next round give it back to her in the duke Archives where she get insane and when she see's u carring the pendant everything becomes clear again ?
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Scudman_Slayer Nov 28, 2011 6:52 pm
@freakgib

that doesn't work because if petrus kill her well its over oyu won't see her for the rest of the plythrough
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anson1986 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
anson1986 Nov 28, 2011 6:57 pm
also has anyone tried giving the ring of the sun's first born to solaire or wearing it while talking to him...something along those lines. If he is looking for something, and we speculate that he is indeed the firstborn...maybe he's looking for his ring
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Firemann28 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Firemann28 Nov 28, 2011 7:35 pm
all great ideas guys, keep em coming. will definitely try a few.
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Solrak_Selarom re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Solrak_Selarom Nov 28, 2011 7:44 pm
@fireman28

In my actual playthrough i follow all those steps, just need to be with hollowed rhea... I shall try ir and say to you guys.

I already Bougth 99 prism, so i Will see if i find something at the abyss
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anson1986 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
anson1986 Nov 28, 2011 7:48 pm
Doing a little searching on them thar interwebs and I came across this http://youtu.be/auggNRdDCZI it's Kaathe telling the story of the pygmy and the age of dark yada yada. I chose the pendant as my gift and therefore have always had it. Kaathe also told me that story...does he not tell that story if you don't have the pendant and is this the great mystery of the pendant? Can someone confirm that he tells this story without the pendant?
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 28, 2011 7:51 pm
I've heard it without having a pendant.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 7:52 pm
same
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 8:32 pm
So, I finally gave her the last bit of humanity. Nothing special but she sounded relieved or something. Can't figure any area that'd be open after that.
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 8:34 pm
On a side note a funny glitch. While talking to an npc use the binoculars. then try to walk.
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Solrak_Selarom Nov 28, 2011 8:50 pm
Nothing... Rhea attacked me and i tried to use the pendant in the re and Nothing... Then went down and tried to use the pendant in every place and Nothing... Hmmmm... This is sad
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Solrak_Selarom Nov 28, 2011 8:50 pm
Nothing... Rhea attacked me and i tried to use the pendant in the re and Nothing... Then went down and tried to use the pendant in every place and Nothing... Hmmmm... This is sad
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 8:55 pm
So I can still offer her humanity beyond the 99?
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darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 9:22 pm
quick side note you can also steal humanity from npcs without them getting hostile like 4 times...just saying
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 9:35 pm
I think I'm done with the Chaos Servant. Guess I'm moving onto the Sunbros. Got 11 sunlight medals off those bugs in Izalith
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 28, 2011 9:37 pm
Maybe you'll get lucky and that giant door in the Centipede demons lair will open :3
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 9:39 pm
Tried it. Hopefully it works with the sunbros because Solaire was down there. By the way, I hear he's still glitched. Is it true?
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 28, 2011 9:41 pm
I have absolutely no clue if he's glitched still because every time I use him I eventually get pissed off at how terrible of a job he does at helping and kill him.

This run I have right now is the only one time where I haven't killed him every time I see him.
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 9:45 pm
How far are you? As long as I know that he appears in Anor Londo then he's fixed.
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Dustofsaturn Nov 28, 2011 9:49 pm
I'm only in NG on my main character for now (which is the only one I've been playing with after the patch) Image

I've seen him at all his locations in NG if that helps by any chance.

Oh and for Sens Fortress right underneath the Iron Golem the stairs, rooftop, walls, and everything below it are completely solid. I used my Bow and Arrow character and went up to the hidden golem (the one that opens the gates to sens fortress) and shot arrows all around there, it is all solid. Too bad arrows can't break open hidden passages.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 9:56 pm
oh. He's fine on Ng but NG+ and up is when he's glitched
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 10:01 pm
Digital.. I had solaire in the O+S fight before the lordvessel..

he was at the bon fire in anor londo and was quite taken by my interest in him.. why I might even have a crush on him... is what he said..

(he says that all the time though )

so for new game +'s.. solaire appears to be working as intended..

so in the centipede room.. the big ole doorway..with fully maxed chaos servant rank.. and you didn't see any change eh?

hmm..

I have collected all the lord souls.. and went back there.. before opening the kiln..so ran all the other tests, aside from no chaos rank

hmm..
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 10:02 pm
Yeah, no change in chaos rank. I'll try it with Sunbros now.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 29, 2011 2:32 am
So, I got +2 rank in Sunbros. Nothing so far.
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freakgib re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
freakgib Nov 29, 2011 6:54 am
what wil happen if u let rhea Kill u in the Dukes while u have the Pendant
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Siahailatua re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siahailatua Nov 29, 2011 9:41 am
Just want to let you guys know there are no Seek Guidance revelations in new londo ruins, asylum, depths and burgh. Covered it all with SG and nothing, so no one has to try it again. I'm off to blight town to cover it with SG. Updates pending Image
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Solrak_Selarom re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Solrak_Selarom Nov 29, 2011 10:34 am

About Rhea in the Dukes... I noticed that she didnt drop the pendant... so maybe someone steal it from her and thats the why she went hollow... i think that you have to buy all the miracles from her in the burg and then drop or gave her the pendant... maybe that way she doesnt go hollow in the dukes no!?

Any opinions!?
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The_Bearded_Man re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
The_Bearded_Man Nov 29, 2011 10:39 am
You don't get the pendant if you just kill her when she's in human form, right? Maybe the pendant is somehow tied to Petrus..
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 29, 2011 11:12 am
Hear rumour that Petrus killed her in the church and leaves the pendant as an offering for the gods or something. I also heard that he collected 'trinkets'
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Firemann28 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Firemann28 Nov 29, 2011 12:18 pm
has anyone tried dropping the pendant for solaire in lost izalith when he is all depressed at the bonfire right after the centipede demon boss fight?
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DemonKid re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
DemonKid Nov 29, 2011 12:59 pm
Nope lol i'll try that though
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Razor2202 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Razor2202 Nov 29, 2011 1:05 pm
Update on the strange potential secret walls:

I went down to the suspect wall in the back of the Centipede's chamber. The large one with the crack that looks very similar to the Lord Vessel door.

I have filled the lord vessel and opened the door to the kiln, the door is still closed.

I attacked the wall several times with a maxed out Divine Claymore, Fire Greatsword, and Lightning Winged Spear. Also took a maxed out Golem Axe, Astora's Straight Sword, and Dragon Slayer's Spear. None of them had any effect on it.

Tried casting a few spells on it as well. Fire Tempest, Fire orb, Fire Whip, Chaos Fire Whip, Emit Force, Lightning Spear, Great Fireball. No dice.

I am on my first play through, no pendant.

Keep on testing guys!
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Razor2202 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Razor2202 Nov 29, 2011 1:19 pm
CONFIRMED: Short cut in Lost Izalith that leads you out behind the Sunlight Maggots and the respawning titanite Demon WILL open for you if you are Rank 2 with the Warriors of Sunlight (will read Warrior of Sunlight +1 in your status.)

Time for me to start a NG+ and try to save Solaire this time through...
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Firemann28 Nov 29, 2011 1:25 pm
good find! try letting the centipide demon hit the wall for you. maybe that will break it? i think i mentioned this earlier.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 29, 2011 1:25 pm
*sigh* I thought as much. I'm going to go ahead and assume that every Covenant that has rank will eventually open up this passage.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 29, 2011 1:27 pm
Still, I'm gonna rank up to 3+ and see if I can do anything.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 29, 2011 1:58 pm
already stated in earleir posts that the short cut door should open if you are rank 2 in any covenant..

I was gravelord rank 2 and got it to open..

So if a sun bro rank 2 can also open it.. then any rank 2 should..

I think this was changed for patch 1.05..

or it had always been that way and we went chaos cov rank 2 cause thats we were told..

though dark wraith rank 2 did not seem to open the door.. so 1.05..

I am forest hunter currently.. when I get rank 2 I am trying the door..

The short cut door.. not the centipede door..

also will be letting the centipede attack the door and see what happens there.

Thanks for the update and confirm Orrin510.. good find.. Image
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Digital-Ashes Nov 29, 2011 2:03 pm
If that's the case, I'm moving on in my theory. I'm going to full rank in Sunbros and beat Gwyn to move on to NG++++ and get Solaire to move. I want him in Izalith.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 29, 2011 3:26 pm
really...you can open it in sunbros...

i was rank 3 last playthrough and didnt try to lol
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 29, 2011 4:46 pm
I am working out the if any covenant rank 2 will open.. using forest hunters because they are neutral..

if it works with them.. it will likely work with them all

But so far confirmed - Chaos rank 2, Sun Bro rank 2, and Gravelord Rank 2.

Easy enuff - any other covenant rank 2 wanna go see if they can open the door..

The only other covenants are Forest Hunter, Dark Moon, Dragon and Dark Wraith that have rank..

Princess and Way of the White .. maybe faith level based.. or wear the rings while in the covenant.. Way of the Princess Guard ring to boost resonance..while being in princess cov.. and White Sceance Ring while being in way of the white..

Still need a summon into someones world on Xbox 360, to see if the Artorias ring and the charred ring can be dropped and looted..

Changed my wiki name to my xbox account name - glyphblade..

we need game sigs here... on the wiki ...
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Razor2202 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Razor2202 Nov 29, 2011 5:48 pm
Well... ****. I might have been a little over zealous with my post about sun bros opening izalith shortcut. Before hen I opened it was wih my knight character and i opened it from the titanite demon side. I had cleared all the way up to the kiln.

I just tried it from the firesage demon side with my mage character who just recently hit sun bros +1 ( same as my knight I thought) and it DID NOT open for me. I have not yet cleared the firesage demon.

I will do some more research on this and get back to ya all. Maybe I was mistaken and my knight was sun bros +2? Possibly post parch it opens for any one from the titanite demon side regardless of covenant or level? Anyone care to test that?

This frustrates me as I'm trying to save solaire this play through :/

More info to chew on...
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Mr.Saxobeat re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Mr.Saxobeat Nov 29, 2011 6:18 pm
I will try the doors at Anor Londo since im Level 3 in darkmoon convenant
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inksoldier re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
inksoldier Nov 29, 2011 8:22 pm
I read all 19 pages of this very interesting discussion, very entertaining Image keep up the good work guys, I will try to figure some of the myths too because I really want to discover all the hidden things in this game Image Will update!
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 29, 2011 8:30 pm
Alright I've finished leveling up my Giant's armour to +5 and everything and got the symbol of avarice in just 10 Lloyds talismans with full 410 Item finding. I'm going to move onto the Dukes Archives for a Trident and also attempt to use the seek guidance miracle in certain places such as in the Crystal Cave because that place is just humongous and seems a lot larger than it actually is with these limited paths.
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halfbeast re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
halfbeast Nov 29, 2011 9:52 pm
started a new character, chose knight (he is way of white from beginning, plus has the prayer gesture at start as well), took the Priest of Thorolund Face option and went with the Pendant as gift.

Rhea and her buddies said the same thing, so my crazy idea was just a crazy idea. v_v

what do I have to do to get solaire making me join the sunbros?
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 29, 2011 10:00 pm
Have a Faith of 25, Or have assisted (via co-op) other players with the area boss enough times to equal the difference between your current faith rating and 25, with each assist equaling 5.

As for Solaire appearing there himself, I cant remember when that happens, but its at a specific point in the game.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 29, 2011 11:30 pm
so razor.. I did the door from behind at rank 2 gravelord.. and it opened.. obviosuly couldn't try it from the front.

But in patch 1.03 it would not open from the back either.. it was still locked by some contraption unless we had the rank 2.. wether it is chaos cov.. or any..


I am rank 2 forest hunter now.. I just need a summon into someone who has the abyss ring and wants to drop it.. see if I can loot it..

and then I can get on to the rest..
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 29, 2011 11:37 pm
Damn, your calls for assistance are breaking my heart glyph, lol. Most of us are on PS3, yet you're on 360..

I really hope for the next wave of consoles, theres some way to connect the servers cross-platform.

But I see it as very unlikely.. after all, Xbox Live from the start has always been a closed network run by Microsoft alone, and I dont see them realistically changing their entire format.
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Razor2202 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Razor2202 Nov 30, 2011 12:06 am
Ok, couple of things I tried tonight:

I encountered solaire at the bonfire just after the centipede demon. He was his usual down self, asking why can't he find "it". Couple of things I tried:
-dropping the pendant in front of him.
-dropping the pendant in front of him and waiting for over a minute.
-dropping the pendant in front of him and reloading (ala snuggles.) Pendant disappeared but seemed to have no effect on him. His speach was the same. (had a spare pendant. )

I was sunbro rank 1 for all tests.

So there is that. I had already opened the short cut (had to quickly join the chaos cov. Then switched back) and killed all 9 sun maggots. I traded the helm to snuggly as I wanted the ring to see what the white witch said. Had I still had the sunlight maggot helm in my possession I would have tried talking to solaire with it on. Can anyone try this?

More to come...


I love this game. Even if we never figure this out or there ends up being no secret this will still have all been a bladt and truly unique game experience.

Course, there better be a secret in all this, lol...
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 30, 2011 12:21 am
Im almost certain there is something in this game not one player has discovered yet.

The Pendant has a purpose. It has a use. I can feel it in my heart of hearts.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 30, 2011 12:27 am
So I got frustrated playing Revelations and decided to switch back to Dark Souls. I have a Sunlight Helm that I can try. Won't be until next game though.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 30, 2011 2:08 am
good tests though razor2202.

we all wanted to know what would happen to solaire and the pendant at that point..

so kudo's.. even if it was an epic fail.. Image
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 30, 2011 2:19 am
You know, I heard it's possible to keep Siegmeier alive at the end of his story on Ash Lake. I've tried and failed even though i followed the guideline exact. I'm just wondering if anyone here has gotten him to Ash Lake alive.
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glyphblade Nov 30, 2011 2:58 am
hey Noctes..

you can lead the charge on the ps3.. get someone to summon you into their world.. and get them to drop the covenant of artorias ring and the charred orange ring..

First thing to this theory is if it will work..

so a cookie to who ever finds out first..
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 30, 2011 3:11 am
I could do this, but first I need to find time to get on. Image
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mindragon73 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
mindragon73 Nov 30, 2011 6:16 am
I was rereading an old (march) interview with Miyazaki on the article page: https://darksouls.wiki.fextralife.com/Articles+%26+Interviews

It says the following:
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Secret routes and locations have also been discussed. From Software inadvertently reveals one to us in a place aptly named Trap Road
"Player death does not have him transform into a ghost, but instead he finds himself in an alternate part of the area and discovers a tunnel to a secret location".
Miyazaki is keen to point out the tunnel leads to an even harsher environment as punishment for slipping off the rail and dying.
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What is he talking about here? Something that never got implemented in the game? Or is he refering to Sen´s Fortress and the secret ladder leading up to the chain-pulling giant?
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Razor2202 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Razor2202 Nov 30, 2011 11:32 am
Small update:

Ran into Solaire in the hall of the Sunlight Maggots (the short cut.) As I had opened the hall before and killed the 9th maggot, Solaire was sitting there depressed but un-hollowed.

-I spoke to him with the Pendant in my inventory. No dice. Pendant was not useable either.
-I dropped the pendant in front of him. Waited for over two minutes. No dice.
-Tried a few gestures too: Praise the sun, prayer, prostration. No effect.

I did not drop pendant and reload game as I only have one left. Maybe someone else can give this a shot

Tried dropping a sunlight medal in front of him as well. No effect.

I wonder if you were to cast SUNLIGHT SWORD (the miracle) in front of him, or speak to him dressed in the dark sun's armor if it would have any effect?

Another thing I noticed that I think could have a big impact on our research: Has anyone else noticed that the pendant cannot be equipped in a quick use slot? I was thinking I'd run the entire game with it in my quick use slot and see if it lit up anywhere such as the Cracked Blue Eye Orb does when you are near the magic spot in Anor Londo. It dosen't let you do it. Very curious. Still, I'm thinking that it has a use. The Old Witch's Ring says "seemingly useless" but will still give you a bit of story when used with the chaos witch. I imagine that the pendant has a similar effect. Maybe we just have to use it in the proper place. I will start checking my inventory to see if the USE ITEM option for the pendant is no longer crossed out. Maybe we can start a list of places we need to / have tried?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 30, 2011 11:38 am
Here's something I noticed about the pendant: when you are creating your character and you select it, it appears in the quick slot on the character creation screen but once the game begins it cannot be equipped. Was there a point when it was meant to be a quick slot item and it was changed or is this an oversight of the creators?

@Glyphblade: O have a new character that I will use to help ya. Currently level 22.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 30, 2011 11:41 am
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old__red re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
old__red Nov 30, 2011 12:41 pm
i've been following the solaire route this playthrough and i've just spoken to him at the sunlight alter. he mentions the tomb of giants as a possible location after lost izalith, could this be something? is it confirmed that he does not appear there? i will try going through izalith before killing nito to check.

keep up the good work guys.
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old__red re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
old__red Nov 30, 2011 1:08 pm
also, something else i've noticed this playthrough is that you can only hold one of each fire keepers soul at a time. this maybe connected to finding out the pendants use after ng+ due to players not needing to pick them up on subsequent playthroughs.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 30, 2011 1:25 pm
I have three or had three at one time. They just didn't stack like arrows or the estus flask.
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balmungmp5 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
balmungmp5 Nov 30, 2011 1:33 pm
the official guide says the pendant is just for trading with snuggly...
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 30, 2011 1:42 pm
Official guides don't tell you everything. example, I looked an official guide for Halo Reach. it only told you about a quarter of all the armour in the game. About 75% was absent in the guide.
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anson1986 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
anson1986 Nov 30, 2011 2:26 pm
@minidraon73 I think Trap Road is an area in Sen's Fortress. A little internet hunting revealed descriptions and still shots that were most definitely in Sen's. I think Trap Road was the working name for Sen's Fortress. This page's description of trap road pretty much proves that
http://www.princeofpersia3d.com/overview-dark-souls-on-the-xbox-360.html The one thing that does stick out is that the creator mentions a place where you roll off a rail and don't die. Considering that at the time of production Sen's was (presumably) being referred to as Trap Road, it is also possible that this magical rail place doesn't exist in the final product. Though it is also possible that the secret to the pendant doesn't exist either. But that would suck. I prefer to keep looking. I'll see if I find anything else
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Acid_Rabbitz re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Acid_Rabbitz Nov 30, 2011 3:49 pm
Ever tried trading pendants with another player..


Maybe something could happen..if not already tried
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 30, 2011 5:09 pm
I remember someone saying they were going to traverse the abyss and see if it holds any secrets. I can safely say there is nothing there but the bonfire and Kaathe. I used the Sunlight Maggot helm and walked the perimeter. With it on you can see the walls and floor just barely but only through the light. It doesn't illuminate the area. The floor is brick and the walls are poor graphics stretched across. Probably the brick design. Also the actual floor is a ways below you because I went near Kaathe, I could see his body going down lower into the floor, and the bonfire, which appeared to be floating.
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 30, 2011 6:35 pm
Also the Lost Izalith shortcut can be opened by anything if you go from the way you kill solaire.

Opened it from the back at +0 rank in Sunbros.
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Siahailatua re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siahailatua Nov 30, 2011 7:06 pm
Update:

Done covering Great hollow, Ash lake, Abys and Valley of drakes with Seek Guidence. No special messages from...well...From
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anson1986 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
anson1986 Nov 30, 2011 7:30 pm
@Siahailatua from From. Lol. Don't no why but amidst the frustration that is trying to discover the secret of the pendant, that cracked me up.
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 30, 2011 9:07 pm
I just beat the Taurus Demon and without ringing any bells defeated Sif, and The Four kings. Interesting fact: The bonfire that you rest at at the four kings allows you to warp to places that can be warped too (Firelink shrine, sunlight shrine (the one below the hellkite dragon)) so as you can get out of there without even having the lord vessel.

Anyways NG+ four kings were a pain even with full giant armour set maxed. Oh Kaathe also says that your journey starts with the lord vessel and getting it. To speak more would be speaking prematurely.

Now Darkwraith +1 so I can invade for fun.
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anson1986 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
anson1986 Nov 30, 2011 9:45 pm
what if you never take the firekeeper soul where reah pops up later?
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 30, 2011 10:06 pm
Hmm.. what if that "Trap Road" part of the interview mentioned above was that area in Sen's Fortress, after you get to the area where the giant is throwing the giant firebombs at you, where you can run and jump across to the caged-floor area (just before the bridge you run across to get to the boss fog).

Does going down that area lead to anywhere specifically that cant be reached any other way?
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