Is Nioh's complex control scheme hard to master?

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by H0P5 » Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:33 am
I think as long as you can farm some blue graves in the very first area, you will be OK. But if you cannot successfully beat the low level blues, you are knackered.
But let's assume you are ok here, you can then spend your cups on summoning help, and follow this help, and let this help deal with the majority of the enemies, supporting by peppering enemies with arrows or bombs. Easy. People say the game is hard, and yes playing solo is brutal, but you do not need to be a front line warrior. First play through, play support.


by BWO_RazrSrorm » Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:29 pm
Back_Lot_Basher wrote:I seem to have a lot of items classified as "slottable". On the first set of four I put my healing items, a rock for luring, antidote, and some sort of grenade. There are all sorts of others, some involving magic that I'm not really sure about. Is there anything I should be slotting for regular use? Is there a Nioh equivalent of fire/lighting buffs in Dark Souls? I ran into this one dual wielding dude on the mission right after the boss who swings two big balls. It's where you have to work backward through the mission you just finished. Anyway, this dual wield guy was pretty tough, and I'm wondering if there's something I'm overlooking to help me with these tough guys (that's why I asked about the buffs).

That "living weapon" I used in the Tower mission...I've never seen the prompt appear again. Any reason?


So No idea about the first things you mentioned. For me I always slot the heal item, salt, and then a resistance item for status effects depending on the area. So the area i'm currently in I have anit paralyze consumable slotted. (and the corrisponding ninjitsu equivelent slotted.) Yes there are elemental buffs you can apply on your weapons. It's either in the ninjitsu tree or the magic tree. I forget which.
And that prompt was just to show you how to activate living weapon as you were in a tutorial. You should have a little icon in your UI that's a circle with something inside it. that's your living weapon gauge. When it's full it should be flashing white signifying the ability to use it.


by Back_Lot_Basher » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:13 pm
I seem to have a lot of items classified as "slottable". On the first set of four I put my healing items, a rock for luring, antidote, and some sort of grenade. There are all sorts of others, some involving magic that I'm not really sure about. Is there anything I should be slotting for regular use? Is there a Nioh equivalent of fire/lighting buffs in Dark Souls? I ran into this one dual wielding dude on the mission right after the boss who swings two big balls. It's where you have to work backward through the mission you just finished. Anyway, this dual wield guy was pretty tough, and I'm wondering if there's something I'm overlooking to help me with these tough guys (that's why I asked about the buffs).

That "living weapon" I used in the Tower mission...I've never seen the prompt appear again. Any reason?


by Back_Lot_Basher » Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:17 am
I'll try practicing on some trash mobs. I'm not very good at multitasking, though...that's why I asked if you can get through the game just managing Ki like you would stamina in Souls.


by BWO_RazrSrorm » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:18 am
Back_Lot_Basher wrote:
BWO_RazrSrorm wrote:I'll do the best I can to help. But keep in mind i'm also playing through just like you. So I might not know how one thing works entirely. and there are some things I might not know about at all.


No worries...I learned quite a bit from your post. I'll dig through the wiki here and try to learn a bit more about the magic/elemental stuff you mentioned.

This ki pulse...what exactly is the prompt for triggering it?


After every move you do there is some blue particles that move about your character. if you stop attacking you can press a certain button to ki pulse. If you wait for the right timing (signified by more blue particles. like a lot more) and press the button you get an even bigger boost of ki back. I use controller scheme B and an xbox controller on my pc. so for me that is left bumper. But since you're on playstation If you use the same control scheme I do I think the button for you is L1? the smaller bumper on the left side above the trigger.


by Back_Lot_Basher » Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:25 am
BWO_RazrSrorm wrote:I'll do the best I can to help. But keep in mind i'm also playing through just like you. So I might not know how one thing works entirely. and there are some things I might not know about at all.


No worries...I learned quite a bit from your post. I'll dig through the wiki here and try to learn a bit more about the magic/elemental stuff you mentioned.

This ki pulse...what exactly is the prompt for triggering it?


by BWO_RazrSrorm » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:46 pm
Back_Lot_Basher wrote:
BWO_RazrSrorm wrote:Hey man long time no talk. I just started the Nioh journey myself a few days back (bought it on my pc to play since it was 50% off to get the game and all it's dlc and my bro is going to be using the my xbox one to play fallout 76 a lot.)


That's awesome...I'm glad at least one person around here is still playing. I just grabbed the game on the sale they're having for PS4 and I can only imagine the questions I'm going to have.

I remember getting completely stuck in the demo they had, because of the dumbest thing: I absolutely could not get the timing of the ki pulse. Tried for ten minutes and just gave up. This time I skipped the tutorial so that didn't happen (maybe you can quit the tutorial, but I wasn't sure). So far I'm just not doing anything with the pulse, and just managing the green bar.

Played for a while today and really got into using the spears (for the reach). I noticed on the stats screen that "body" governs both health and spear damage. This seems like a dream come true...is there a catch I'm missing? Can I really add to my health and weapon damage in one point category?

As far as leveling, do you basically follow a similar template as in Souls, concentrating on health, stamina, and whatever raises your attack skills. My secondary weapon is swords.

I took the shark thing as a guardian, and noticed when I die that it's on the ground. Do I also lose my XP like in souls, and have one chance to grab it?

There are a number of other things that confused me, but I need to play a bit more before I can even come up with a question :)



You can deff play like that. At least from what i've seen so far. But considering the bosses (so far anyway) leave yokai spots on the ground a lot you might want to learn how to do do proper ki pulses at some point. As you don't always have the luxury of space to simply avoid those spots.

No you're not missing anything. Quite a few of the stats effect something besides weapon damage. I'd imagine this was intentional design as enemies in this game seem to hit harder than the souls games even with heavy armor on.

Sort of. You'll not want to neglect things that boost your magic and spirit though. As unlike souls status/elements play quite a big part of combat. And spirit is super helpful if you plan on using your living weapon a lot. Which you should considering it's an extra health bar while it's up. allowing you to be semi reckless and not worry about actual health damage.

Yes when you die your spirit "protects your grave." You can go back and get it. But if you die before picking it up you lose all of that exp. Just like stains in souls. Only difference is because your spirit is guarding your grave you can't build your spirit meter or use living weapon while it's doing that. If you don't care about the exp in the grave you can use the shrine you respawned at to call the spirit back and abandon the grave. The nice thing is before you choose to do that the shrine will tell you how much exp you have in that particular grave. so you can make an informed decision if you want to call the spirit back or not.

I'll do the best I can to help. But keep in mind i'm also playing through just like you. So I might not know how one thing works entirely. and there are some things I might not know about at all.


by Back_Lot_Basher » Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:35 pm
BWO_RazrSrorm wrote:Hey man long time no talk. I just started the Nioh journey myself a few days back (bought it on my pc to play since it was 50% off to get the game and all it's dlc and my bro is going to be using the my xbox one to play fallout 76 a lot.)


That's awesome...I'm glad at least one person around here is still playing. I just grabbed the game on the sale they're having for PS4 and I can only imagine the questions I'm going to have.

I remember getting completely stuck in the demo they had, because of the dumbest thing: I absolutely could not get the timing of the ki pulse. Tried for ten minutes and just gave up. This time I skipped the tutorial so that didn't happen (maybe you can quit the tutorial, but I wasn't sure). So far I'm just not doing anything with the pulse, and just managing the green bar.

Played for a while today and really got into using the spears (for the reach). I noticed on the stats screen that "body" governs both health and spear damage. This seems like a dream come true...is there a catch I'm missing? Can I really add to my health and weapon damage in one point category?

As far as leveling, do you basically follow a similar template as in Souls, concentrating on health, stamina, and whatever raises your attack skills. My secondary weapon is swords.

I took the shark thing as a guardian, and noticed when I die that it's on the ground. Do I also lose my XP like in souls, and have one chance to grab it?

There are a number of other things that confused me, but I need to play a bit more before I can even come up with a question :)


by BWO_RazrSrorm » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:00 pm
Hey man long time no talk. I just started the Nioh journey myself a few days back (bought it on my pc to play since it was 50% off to get the game and all it's dlc and my bro is going to be using the my xbox one to play fallout 76 a lot.)

Anyway, At first yes seeing all the buttons and different combinations of presses was overwhelming. But i've gotten semi used to it. I think i'm using scheme B which is similar to dark souls RB being lights and RT being heavies. It was a little weird to get used to blocking with x. But I got used to it. As far as stances go the above people are right. They don't matter too much early on. Just find a stance on a weapon you're comfortable with for the moves and then stick to that. I myself run tonfa and odachi. Switching between stances really isn't an in combat thing unless you have moves that do so.

Stance switching imo is meta thought. Meaning between engagements what do you want to use. Or if you're fighting a stronger enemy (not a push over but not a boss) you might switch stances when they aren't charging you to fit the situation. In my case I use low stance on scrub enemies and when i'm sizing up a boss. Then when I feel comfortable with a boss I go medium stance for the bit of extra damage. I never use high stance (at least so far) because you're exposed in that stance guard wise. Not to mention the ki drain on the attacks is pretty brutal.

I've heavily invested into the skills that let me dodge to activate ki-pulse and the ability to dodge back after using a ki pulse. This is really helpful. As ki pulse on dodge lets me always get some ki back while focusing on avoiding enemy hits. And dodge on ki pulse lets me be a bit more cheeky with more hits once i've gotten comfortable with the enemy.

I'm not super far in. I'm on the second boss of the game right now (no spoilers but she fast and paralysizes a lot) And this is what i've done so far to help me get through.


by Back_Lot_Basher » Wed May 02, 2018 6:24 am
@lich I see, that's good to know. Maybe I will have to give this a try later, on a sale.