EldritchImagination wrote:I'd actually take a Demon's Souls remake over a Dark Souls one. It's the game that would benefit more from getting remade for new consoles. It's older, missed by many souls fans due to it's lack of reputation and exclusivity, and could definitely gain a lot from the refinement of the Souls games after it.
What else is all that different? Guard Break Riposts? DKS3 is probably the most like Demons since actual Demons.
But it's still not Demon's Souls. It has the most call-backs to Demon's Souls, both thematically and mechanically, but it's still not the same. DkS3 may be the most "Demon's Souls-like" one of them, but it's still not the same experience as actually playing DeS. I'd also much rather see a Demon's Souls port (port rather than remaster, don't even alter the graphics except to match new gen resolution options) rather a Dark Souls 1 rerelease. But in either case, I'd rather they release without any changes made to them. These games' flaws can be just as important to their identity as their successes.
Demons is my favorite in the series. I wasn't saying DKS3 is Demon's Souls, I was objecting to the notion that Dark Souls (as a series) has brought much in the way of refinement.
Estus, Guard break riposts, weapon arts, sweet spots (if you want to call that a refinement instead of an annoyance) covenants, charged R2s and dedicated dual weapon attacks. Actually trying, that's all I can think of that has been added to the Demon's formula and made it into DKS3, and much of that was added in DKS3. (There are probably more, I just can't think of them.) Most every other "refinement" Dark Souls introduced has actually been reverted back to the Demon's Souls systems. If anything Dark Souls 3 feels more like a direct sequel to Demon's Souls than to Dark Souls 1 or 2.
(and before anyone mentions the boss "heating up" mechanic, that was in demon's as well. The Maneater summons a second at 50% hp and the Flamelurker gets more aggressive and uses explosive attacks more often at lower HP, it's just not as flashy a transformation or quite so common as in DKS3)
EDIT: It's worth noting, I wasn't using the term refinement in ""s to imply it's inferior or provides an inferior experience, I mean to say that it provides a different experience, even if the end goal of the overall package is the same.
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