Having actually played several of the older RPGs, I can say quite confidently that Torment: Tides of Numenera (and the rest of the modern cRPGs) are often just as good, and in many ways better. Just as an example, the older games tend to use spinoffs of D&D 2nd edition rules, and 2nd edition is garbage, full of confusing and irrational restrictions both in and out of combat. In that way something like Pillars of Eternity is better, with clearer and clearly explained systems that offer more choice in playstyle within a class, allowing you to do something atypical of the older games and continue roleplaying your clumsy rogue or stupid muscle wizard in combat without completely gimping the character, and without sacrificing system complexity to manage it.
If you'll notice, there is very little actual criticism in that review, and much of that is stupid criticism. "The solution to quests are almost always near by." Well no **** sherlock you just said the map was fairly small (which fyi, is neither a good nor a bad thing on it's own.) "The quest journal is patronizing and offers hints." Ok, don't read it. You don't have to use it and can reasonably figure out everything yourself, that's what I'm doing, it's not the end of the world that hints are there for people who need or want them, and unlike many modern games the quests are actually designed to be completed without the hand holding. "It's loaded with descriptions of things you can see on screen." Yeah, uh, sweetie, I don't know if you noticed but isometric cRPGs aren't exactly the last bastion of detailed texture and animation work, they add a whole lot of detail to the mental image of the things being described. You see what I'm getting at I hope. Not that the person doesn't have a right to their opinion or that none of their complaints are valid (edit: for example the combat is pretty mediocre for the reasons that were described in the review, among others,) but the nostalgia blinders are readily apparent.
The quick and dirty way to tell legitimate complaints (wether you agree with them or not) from things like the main body of that review, is too look at the explainations. If it can be explained why and how thing X is a problem, (say, a voiced protagonist) and if it can't be addressed and dismissed with 1 sentance, then the complaint is more likely to be legitimate. If it can't be, or if said explainations say "it is X" without saying why, less likely to be legitimate.
I really, really dislike people who do crap like that, because they make those of us with actual detailed complaints look bad and our complaints look like they're not valid by association, it's all just dismissed as nostalgia (even when it's people like me making said complaints, who didn't actually play or even know of the older games until after the newer ones because I didn't have a PC.)
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