SilkyGoodness wrote:I wouldn't call health care programs, welfare etc. socialist. Japan is a capitalist country, they implement social democratic policies which you can call liberal, but not socialist.
Japan has incorporated significant amount of socialist and leftist, marxist-leaning policies into everything. The society is more important than the self. This has nothing to do with liberalism. Read "The Worth of the Social Economy: An International Perspective" - it specifically mentions Japan as the most successful "Socialist" regime in the world because the policies set in place are not those of extreme capitalism.
SilkyGoodness wrote:If Japan is as nationalist as you claim, combined with being exceptionally capitalist like the USA I'd say it's very much just as right wing.
But Japan is not right wing because the policies do not align with economic right-wing, or we would have CEOs making 800million dollars while employees make 50k (we don't). Being "nationalist" is not right wing either, or Turkey's Patriotic Party wouldn't have happened.
SilkyGoodness wrote:I would say not being fascist and not being socialist is what makes it more centered.
Not being Fascist has nothing to do with right or left. The political spectrum is right, left, up, down. Fascism is UP to authoritarian.
SilkyGoodness wrote:However I haven't seen much in that would make Japan nationalist. Nationalism isn't just patriotism or well managed boarders. It's more extreme than that. Hence why I use China as an example. There is a fanaticism for their government that is indoctrinated into it's populace that I have never experienced talking to Japanese people ever. Every Chinese person I know you have to be very careful about how you talk about their government, which is directly tied to their cultural and ethnic identity. Every Japanese person I have met, yourself included, will express opinions that are far more neutral and look at things from more than one perspective. It's just different. I would say WWII japan was Nationalist, but not now.
Your definition of nationalism as it being something that means indoctrination is not what everyone else is using, lest you believe that Trump supporters who are being called "nationalists" are all indoctrinated to be overly protective of their government.
Regarding Japan... well if you ever do end up coming to Japan, you may get to experience the reality of conversation vs actions... down to being refused access to a place, rental of something including an apartment, a job or even a relationship based solely on your nationality. You can ask Cas how it works out.